Recently, RFK Jr said this in a public statement about the measles outbreak in Texas.
“The most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine.”
But first, he said, essentially, since “giving clinics MMR vaccines,” (not for the infected, by the way) “and other medicines,” like budesonide which saved the critical patients from measles so far, fyi (which was not allowed to be mentioned during Covid but also saved lives during Covid) “the growth rates for new cases and hospitalizations has flattened.”
Wow, it’s already over. No two weeks. No shut down the workforce and tank the economy. No close the schools and skyrocket the suicide rate. No lies about the ongoing case numbers being embellished. In fact, almost as immediately as it happened, the critical condition and more importantly the *medical malpractice* that took place in the single case of the child who was widely reported as having died from “the measles” was known to the public, and everyone who started out saying “anti-vaxxers spread the misinformation that caused the vaccine preventable death of an innocent child,” quickly and summarily, shut the fuck up.
But a lot of people are still wondering why RFK Jr., MAHA hero, said vaccines were “effective.” Was he a coward, a liar, is he finally admitting he was a shill all along? Is this the proof?
I suggest he’s either a coward-I mean afraid or he’s speaking as his position says he has to speak- as in: this is the position of the “secretary of health and human services” admin, et al. That’s my guess.
I don’t think this means he will do absolutely nothing to move the needle. He’s already moving the needle of public perception. MAHA is a health freedom movement. It’s not political platform, per say. RFK Jr. isn’t MAHA. The moms and dads are.
It’s not my impression that RFK Jr. is a wolf in sheep’s clothing sent to trick people into complacency. Mainly because no one has been complacent. Abilene, TX became the first county to stop adding fluoride to water supplies. Utah became the first state. Parents, not RFK Jr, but certainly emboldened by his position, have taken the mantle and started grassroots work to stop fluoridation and food poisoning, I mean artificial dyes added to foods. Also, RFK Jr. has made his own waves by blocking sodas and other sugary foods and high fructose corn syrup laden foods from being bought with government food subsidy monies.
The guy is making good decisions that make a difference. I can’t reconcile that he is enacting policies that help people with the stance that he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
I haven’t really minded what he says about the MMR or any vaccine, personally. It doesn’t affect my life in a negative way. However, if they told me you say “vaccines prevent disease” or you get the heart attack gun, you and your kids, I’d say those words. I would, and then I would do everything I could in my power behind the scenes or otherwise that wouldn’t get my kids heart attack gunned to undermine the baddies in public health.
For all you skeptics out there, it’s apparently like y’all never read the last section of the Bad Quaker’s book “Sedition, Subversion and Sabotage.” That’s how BQ says to do it. But, likely RFK Jr. is not a bad quaker. He’s probably somewhere in between and hard leaning toward advocating health throughout his life and wherever it actually mattered.
Personally, I still think literally anyone is better in public health outposts than a mentally ill fat man in a military woman’s attire who tried to subvert fluoride safety research data getting out to the governing board on fluoride for the lawsuit against water fluoridation.
I’m not saying RFK Jr is a great guy or a good guy. I don’t know him personally. I’m just saying, I would take the job if I thought I could do something with it and not get murdered. I would say the script that kept my family alive, and I’d do other things to sabotage the agency when or where I had the opportunity behind the scenes if I were him. Wouldn’t you?
Or are you one of those, “I would never pick up the bat” feckless wonders?
I think the things that were said publicly in the hearing to get RFK Jr. in the seat already sabotaged a bunch of people. Everyone now knows (which they didn’t know before nor did *I* know before, honestly, but kudos to you if you did) that Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are the top two highest recipients of pharma monies. They made proper assholes of themselves in the RFK hearing. Memes were made and went viral. I know people that adored those two actual wolves in sheep’s clothing that will never vote for them again.
The American Heart Association has sent its own representatives out to committee meetings on RFK Jr’s recommendation to remove sodas and other obviously unhealthy foods from food subsidy eligibility. The agents exposed themselves publicly in these meetings as being a captured agency of the big food business and corporate interests. No one can trust the AHA anymore.
He’s moved the needle.
Maybe everyone that voted for Trump because of his association with MAHA got “duped” as many of my truther friends imply. MAHA were so stupid, and you guys who were saying RFK Jr. was a shill all along were so much smarter than them. Give yourselves a cookie. (no offense, but really...)
I just don’t see it as being so cut and dry. To me, the media has been lying to us (duh), but it’s not the factoids that matter. It’s the overarching ideal peddled, the bombardment of a particular notion about public perception. With TV dramas, sports, movies, and last of all, the news media, they’ve gone out of their way to skew the perception in an effort to make us all believe that 99.99999% of people are happily going along with the program, that everyone is pro-vax, pro-death, pro-trans, pro-fluoride, pro-food dyes, pro-corn syrup. RFK Jr. (regardless of what you think of him) getting Trump elected clearly refutes that notion.
I, for one and as a non voting person (give me a cookie, look how smart I am) feel that the way the larger public is responding to Joe Rogan, Trump, Russell Brand, Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, RFK Jr, is hopeful- even if you believe all these people are possibly shills (pass those cookies around the room, oh geez, my butt’s getting fat from all these self-congratulatory pointless cookies).
WHAT IS TRENDING? What IDEAS are they selling on a larger scale that are trending? That’s what matters here. When I see stuff like this trending, that RFK Jr. endorsed MMR and watch the public at large having to do "gymnastics" as many “truthers” say in response to it, what I see is the larger public is having to reject his words in only these particular instances.
Holy shit, guys! It’s like we won and we don’t know how to handle it!?!
Am I incorrect? Is there some contingent of the majority who wanted RFK Jr. appointed to HHS saying, “RFK said MMR vaccines are the most effective blah blah, I’m going right into the nearest clinic to roll up my sleeves and get injected”?
Fuck no! Absolutely zero out of the majority of 300 million people who voted for Trump to get RFK Jr. into HHS are saying that.
The public still divided are either saying, “he’s a dangerous anti-vaxxer who is unqualified for the position” (Fools! Obvious fools! No cookies for pointing out what retards these people are. It’s too easy.) Or, “We hope RFK Jr. can do something to make changes, and I believe he really wants to make things better. I don't know why he said MMR is effective, but I have my suspicions.” (Oh my god, Becky, these are the biggest tools! Am I right? Of course, I am right! How stupid could you be? Do we need to get more cookies? I think we’re out of cookies. Someone bring me cookies!) Then, there’s the obviously superior position, (Cookies? Anyone? Cookies? We needs muh cookies!!!) “He’s a liar, a coward and a shill. Look what he said! It’s so obvious, he’s just trying to get everyone to take ‘safe’ vaccines. He’s bending the will of anti-vaxxers who are too dumb to see it and using their support to work against them.”
But, you might slow down a minute and notice this tricky little thing happening in the public perception. It’s actually really fucking good despite your protests to the contrary: No one in the relevant majority, neither the pro vaxxers nor MAHA, believes for one minute that these are HIS words or HIS beliefs- except you inconsequential few in these comment threads of conspiracy theorists who seem to want to believe it. (Oh, shit. I outed myself as not being part of the conspiracy contingent. No more cookies for me.) But it is kinda funny in itself and good. I’ll take a few conspiracy theorists saying “he’s ratting himself and his true intentions out” any day, while the public wholeheartedly is rejecting in majority, the entire notion of vaccination.
You guys have been here with me since the beginning, when the majority of people were afraid to admit vaccines might cause autism or harm or be useless or worse, deadly, while the majority 10, 15, 20, 30 years ago thought vaccines saved lives. Remember what we have been fighting against? Remember what we were fighting for? Most people now know vaccines cause kids to have heart attacks and blood clots. That battle has been won.
I care ONLY about the culture. The laws, society, the politicians, everything follows culture. The culture is rejecting mainstream narratives right now. Even y’all in these conspiracy threads are kind of part of that rejection of the rejection, still, IMHO part of some form of rejection. It’s ok, you guys who are still bickering amongst yourselves can have all the cookies. Black pill cookies upset my stomach, anyway.
Freedom fighter, Derrick Broze is not wrong when he says we still need to advocate for ourselves. To me, though, this is just another sign WE as self advocates are winning the culture war against mainstream narratives. Vaccines suck, hospitals suck, big pharma sucks, big agra sucks, and the cat is out of the bag.
Or maybe I am just an eternal optimist with a digestive intolerance for black pill cookies.